A week ago today we finally got the long awaited “letter” from the NYC Department of Education postmarked Aug 21 2008.
It simply reads:
Thank you for your interest in the New York City Department of Education Gifted and Talented programs.
Based upon the eligibility criteria for entrance to Gifted and Talented programs, we are unable to offer your child a placement in the programs for the 2008-2009 school year. We wish your child every success in the upcoming school year.
Sincerely,
(unsigned)
Office of Student Enrollment
These are the stated requirements:
WHAT ARE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS?
Eligibility for upper elementary grades placement is established by combining the 2008 English Language Arts (ELA) and
Math scores for a total score. Baseline scores of Level 4 on both standardized tests are required for placement
consideration, as follows:
• For students currently in grade 3 requesting a placement to a grade 4 Gifted & Talented (G&T) program in a district
school for 2008, the score range on each test is:
o Grade 3 ELA 730 – 780
o Grade 3 Math 703 – 770– Information for Families –
Request for Placement in Upper Elementary Gifted & Talented Programs
Grade 4 in K-5 District Schools
Grade 5 in District K-6 Schools
For the 2008-2009 School Year
Anika’s March 2008 Mathmatics Scaled Scored and Performance Levels for Grade 3 were:
Performance Level: 4 Scaled Score: 770 (Highest possible)
Anika’s January 2008 English Language Arts Scaled Scores and Performance Levels for Grade 3 were:
Performance Level: 4 Scaled Score: 720
I double and triple checked with her elementary school (PS9) Assistant Principal Kate Witzke about the apparent discrepancy with the ELA scaled score of 720 and performance level of 4. She assured me that was correct and that Anika qualified to apply for the G&T programs. So when the applications finally became available end of May we applied. Apparently she was misinformed. All the placements are done by the local district, at least that is the “official” stance.
This was Anika’s last report card (before I pulled her out last Spring for this reason).




And just in case she did not get a G&T placement we applied to PS87. We live just a few blocks north of this school. Here was that response:
From: DKilcullen at schools dot nyc dot gov
Subject: RE: Acceptance Letters to PS 87
Date: August 24, 2008 7:40:34 PM EDT
To: me at liliflower dot com
Hello Lilia,
Thank you for your interest in PS 87. Unfortunately, we do not have placements available for families living outside the catchment zone.
Good Luck!
Danielle K. Kilcullen
Parent Coordinator
PS 87
160 West 78th Street
New York, NY 10024
Office: 212 - 678 - 2826 Dial - 3 or ext. 444
Cell: 347 - 563 - 4499
Email: DKilcullen at schools dot nyc dot gov
I actually doubt she ever gave the district our applications because we never got a “letter” from the district about this and the “official” word is only the district does these kinds of placements as well.
This process took TWO long years. I have no interest in fighting this system and thus I let it be when all was said and done. There are no options for Anika in the NYC public schools other than the ONE general education/collaborative team teaching (special ed) class at our local PS9 public school. Like I said spending one year there was more than enough given the kind of peer environment she had to endure. I must say, she was an ideal student…
and lucky me, she still is.
We have decided to HOME SCHOOL long term.
Basically the only other options that I would consider worthwhile were private schools that in this city have an average tuition of $25-30K per child. There is just no way that I’m going to walk back into the job world after 8 years of being home with these kids and make the $75K/year to make it worth it. At this point if somehow we came to have unlimited income we would still homeschool AND travel the world while we were at it :-D. To be sincere, I am somewhat devastated at the reality of our experience with “public school”. On the other hand I think this whole new world that has opened up to us (HOMESCHOOLING) is just an absolutely AMAZING opportunity and I WILL rise to the challenge. I’ve been around it long enough (even long before this March) to recognize the unique and phenomenal opportunities it presents.
We have a high value for our family and sibling experience so we also decided to home school Dante out as well. He had the chance to take the “G&T” placement “test” this last school year.
I don’t doubt for one minute that “Comparisons Subset” was a fluke and that he would more accurately be in the 99%. Dante’s academic performance was undoubtedly top of his “gen ed” class. Here is his last report card:
We have no doubt we have two incredible kids, whom I enjoy thoroughly and genuinely look forward to fully investing myself into.












